r/gaming Sep 20 '21 Silver 25 Gold 1 Helpful 7 Wholesome 14 Hugz 29

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u/Quicc-n-Thicc Sep 20 '21

Me being a console casual POS I can barely tell a 20 frame drop

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u/Takanashi_Aihlia Sep 20 '21

Assuming you have a console that typically runs at 30fps, I definitely feel like you’d notice suddenly dropping to 10.

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u/Manuels-Kitten Console Sep 20 '21

I can deal framerate drops up to 20fps in 30fps games, THEN it becomes a problem. In 60fps once the game consistantly stays in 40-60 range I'm happy.

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u/douglasdtlltd1995 Sep 20 '21

i would just like Unreal games to be optimized and not drop 140 -> 40 fps.

(BloodHunt)

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u/siirka Sep 20 '21

Seriously so many of these unreal 4 games run like garbage, or games will upgrade to it saying that performance will be so much better and then you lose half your FPS post patch….

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u/Manuels-Kitten Console Sep 20 '21

That's more on the developers, not the PC

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u/Confident-Orange2392 Sep 20 '21

i would just like Unreal games to be optimized

Is that not what they're already implying

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u/HarryPopperSC Sep 20 '21

I tried going back to xbox to play rocket league on my old account recently and jesus christ it's so bad. You press a button and it doesn't happen on screen until next week.

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u/Manuels-Kitten Console Sep 20 '21

There is game like this for me... Ratchet and Clank: Into the Nexus.

I never thought I would ever experience a poorly optimized RaC game. The "shitty" Deadlocked port has a more stable framerate.

That was the game that made me lose all my respect for Insomniac.

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u/Doctor_Ghillie Sep 20 '21

Jesus. 20 FPS looks like a PowerPoint presentation to me.

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u/Manuels-Kitten Console Sep 20 '21

I can handle 20fps for short periods of time, like a particulary heavy moment. If a game runs at near constanst 20fps it grinds on my gears.

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u/aidsfarts Sep 20 '21

Sniping at 120fps is so much easier than 60.

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u/Manuels-Kitten Console Sep 20 '21

I'm sure you love it, but I don't play many shooters. Only Ratchet and Clank, and the old run and gun ones at that

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u/aidsfarts Sep 22 '21

Yeah it’s not nearly as noticeable in single player games. For competitive shooters it feels massively different.

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u/KyraIX Sep 20 '21

If you have the newer consoles 60 is becoming pretty standard, and it’s not uncommon to find people who wouldn’t notice the difference between 60 and 40.

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u/pillowhugger_ PC/Switch/PS4 Sep 20 '21

Calling it "pretty standard" is a stretch.

You should easily be able to tell apart 40 from 60. Especially if the former is unstable, which it often is if it is hovering around 40.

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u/Dubtrooper Sep 20 '21

Most people don't have the newer consoles and are still running the ones with only 30 frames.

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u/Jakepopss Sep 20 '21

Really? That’s crazy that PC gamers adapt to notice smaller frame rate differences, 40 is almost pretty much unplayable for me.

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u/TmzuXBOX Sep 20 '21

Idk why people always say console run at 30fps. Plenty of games run at 60fps even on the oldest PS4/ XB1s.

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u/Ancient_Presence Sep 20 '21

Even PS2 had a couple of games, like Metal Gear Solid 2.

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u/Manuels-Kitten Console Sep 20 '21

The Ratchet and Clank series

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u/Doctor_Ghillie Sep 20 '21

Plenty of games run at 20FPS/900p

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u/TmzuXBOX Sep 20 '21

Yeah plenty of games run like a powerpoint presentation but it’s ignorant to think OG consoles run 30 fps. The older ones held up pretty great with limited hardware and developers still managed to get 60fps on their games.

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u/Doctor_Ghillie Sep 20 '21

No they didn't.

Most of the graphically demanding games released on the Xbone/PS4 towards the latter half of its life ran at 900p30 or worse in intense areas.

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u/TmzuXBOX Sep 20 '21

Yeah.. and plenty of games run at 60 jesus christ

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u/Doctor_Ghillie Sep 21 '21

I'm so glad that a console can render a 2d games at the minimum acceptable frame rate for a first person shooter.

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u/Dood567 Sep 20 '21

No multiplayer I know of other than splitgate can run solid 60 on xbone. Shit's definitely garbage and signalling time for an upgrade.

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u/TmzuXBOX Sep 20 '21

On the OG Xbox/PS4 I think all CODs run at 60fps except everything after BO4. BF4/Hardline and maybe even BF1/5 run 60 as well.

From my own experience at least.

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u/Dood567 Sep 20 '21

I've only played warzone relatively recently and that definitely dips below 60 too. COD is supposed to be flat 60 across though.

I'm most mad at apex for sure.

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun Sep 20 '21

As long as it's 15 or higher, it's still perfectly playable imho.

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u/EffdaPlaya Sep 20 '21

Perfectly is a stretch, but when i only had the integrated graphics (HD2500) i successfully played through LIS: Before the Storm at an average of 14/15 fps, it was shit to play, but it's not an action game so it was playable. Vice City on Ps2 runs at an average of 16-20, and everybody loves it to this day.

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u/Globglogabgalab Sep 20 '21

I've been on PC since the beginning of this year and I still see no difference after 45+ fps.

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u/Globglogabgalab Sep 20 '21

I do in fact have a 120hz monitor.

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u/SuprDog Sep 20 '21

Are you using an HDMI cable or Displayport? Is your displayport cable supporting 120hz? Is your monitor set to 120hz?

Not trying to belittle you but i have a bunch of friends that had 120/144hz monitors for years without ever setting their monitor to 120/144hz.

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u/Globglogabgalab Sep 20 '21

Yes everything is in order.

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u/raylolSW Sep 20 '21

Same but at 80hz lol. But yeah, I enjoy 30 or 100+ the same, I just wanna play

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u/ShiraCheshire Sep 20 '21

I legit don't notice framerate at all until it starts dropping into like the 12 FPS or lower range. It's weird to me when people argue about 30 FPS vs 60 FPS because I honestly can't tell the difference. I know there must be something to it, because people are very vocal about the subject, but it's all the same to me.

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u/IllegallyBored Sep 20 '21

Same. I've seen people claim things under 60 are unplayable and what not but apart from competitive shooters, why does that make a difference? My eyes cannot tell the difference between 20 and 30 fps. I definitely don't know when a game is running 60fps. A good game is good regardless of its frame rate. As long as it's not a slideshow it's fine.

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u/sahmackle Sep 20 '21

You got down bored. It absolutely confuses me why as I feel exactly the same as s you about everything above 25fps. Mind you, I was happy with Jazz Jackrabit on a 386.

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u/QueenOfZzombies Sep 20 '21

Yeah a good game is good regardless of framerate but why shoot yourself in the foot and make a good game when you can lower the graphics and stuff and make a great game

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u/raylolSW Sep 20 '21

Most people that claim less than 60 is unplayable are mainly competitive gamers, I’m pretty sure 98% of gamers find 30fps on singleplayer games fine.

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u/Quicc-n-Thicc Sep 20 '21

Some games that I never knew were 30fps that people bump to 60, (Mario 64 and BOTW) make me realize that sometimes games can look better when things aren't buttery smooth

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u/orion19819 Sep 20 '21

Same boat. I've had plenty of discussions about it where I'm just like, there's no way, you are making shit up. I understand that there is technically a difference. Number higher, obviously means something.

But. When people start claiming "anything below 60 FPS makes me feel sick". I just call bullshit. Unless you have some serious motion sickness or something, that just seems unlikely.

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u/Cartman4wesome PlayStation Sep 21 '21

Same i cant tell. The first time I’ve ever actually notice frame drops when was Cayo Perico came out for GTA on the PS4. And it was really bad. On the PS5 I can only notice it because i know its there, otherwise i probably wouldn’t have ever noticed it because it runs pretty smooth on the newer consoles.

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u/Legobrick1000 Sep 20 '21

I play games at 20FPS on my older PC and 60FPS(give-or-take) on my console. It's been a great way to build-up a tolerance for it.

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u/craftychap Sep 20 '21

Gamers a gamer bro, I've had both I'm only on PC now still got a PS4 my first one was an Atari years back, I'm not buying consoles ever again but nothing wrong with it at all.

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u/Slimxshadyx Sep 20 '21

Honestly, I haven't ever noticed my console having any bad performance. No real lag or anything. Maybe I'm not comparing it to $1000+ set ups like most people seem to for some reason.

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u/FrozenVictory Sep 20 '21

You will notice frame drops at any point below 60 fps. After 60-70fps frame drops aren't detectable by the human eye