r/gaming Sep 20 '21 Silver 25 Gold 1 Helpful 7 Wholesome 14 Hugz 29

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u/Ed_Rock Sep 20 '21 Hugz
  • Soundblaster required
  • well shit :(

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u/AidilAfham42 Sep 20 '21

3D Accelerator required

Welp, time to lie to my dad about why my school work needs a Voodoo 2

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u/shdhdhhxdheh3u3h Sep 20 '21

Did he get it?

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u/AidilAfham42 Sep 20 '21

Yes, it was for Rogue Squadron. He was a strict, short tempered dad. For me and my brother to pull that bullshit off was a tremendous achievement.

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u/shdhdhhxdheh3u3h Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

Lol

Arses must've been kicked when he saw the dial up bills.

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u/AidilAfham42 Sep 20 '21

Oh with the same bullshit story, I got the new internet cable technology. Many hours on CS, the bill racked up to about $500 USD at that time. I got chewed out for it, but he never found out it was CS, the computer shop guy told him it must be some background internet cache thingy, the guy told him I must be watching porn. That was easier to handle coz he was too embarrassed to confront me about it.

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u/wakeupwill Sep 20 '21

Damn, that computer guy was a hero. I was picturing this.

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u/lOOspy Sep 20 '21

"You little shit I thought you were masturbating"

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u/General_Ts0_chicken Sep 20 '21

I caught a break in the 90s because my dad was a sales rep that worked from home, so our internet bill was paid by his employer. Many ours on CS and SC: Brood War, and they replaced his computer every year so I always got the hand me downs!

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u/Zoo_Rats Sep 20 '21

When I was in high school, my Grandparents had a PC for the sole purpose of my Grandad buying stuff on ebay. He went to live auctions a lot so this was really exciting for him. My uncle, who was maybe 25-26 at the time, stayed there with my Aunt off and on, dude looked at something porn related and racked up the dial up bill and then denied it. I am pretty sure they thought it was me. I remember them showing me a desktop icon of a girl with her mouth open and asking if I knew anything about it.

Fast forward 15 years later, staying at the Aunt's while in town, late night sleeping down stairs by myself, everyone is in bed so I go to look for a DVD to watch and find behind the first row of DVDs... an entire hardcore porn collection....and then it clicked...like when Hank found out about Heisenberg.

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u/AidilAfham42 Sep 20 '21

I’m picturing your Hank face while watching porn

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u/Mickus_B Sep 20 '21

Not the person you are responding to, but in my last weeks of high school, I sneaked a floppy disk into the drive of the internet computer (yes, the 1 computer that could access the internet) and copied the winsock dialer onto the disk and then tried running it from the floppy instead of the hard drive. When I realised that worked, I took the disk home and my school paid for my home internet then! This was in the times when dialup was by the hour and I pretty much stayed online permanently (set up a redial for when the ISP kicked me at the end of a 4 hr session) until a year later when the account finally stopped working.

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u/shdhdhhxdheh3u3h Sep 20 '21

Damn, I thought dials had 1 connection max. That's like thousands

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u/Mickus_B Sep 20 '21

My wife went to the same school, but 2 years below me. When I told her the story, she said "THAT WAS YOU‽" Apparently the "nerds" had been banned from using the internet (it was on 3 library computers by then) and people were threatened with suspension or expulsion if anyone was caught, it apparently cost the school thousands of dollars. I kinda felt bad about the cost, but proud I was never caught!

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u/shdhdhhxdheh3u3h Sep 20 '21

Haha! I was going to say, you f it for everyone else but your proud deep inside. Also, don't think anyone was was caught back in the days for using others accounts, unless you was doing really Dodgy stuff.

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u/Mickus_B Sep 20 '21

Dodgy like running an fserver on IRC for pirated games? No. I would never do that.

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u/SlyCooper007 Sep 20 '21

You mad man, props.

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u/fakeittilyoumakeit Sep 20 '21

Voodoo

Wow! My nostalgia gland just got triggered.

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u/KalElified Sep 20 '21

YOOOO VOODOO 2.

But honestly ; the gripes I hear about now with 10 more ping or FPS drop it’s like mother fucker, in my day it was a 60/40 the game would install right let alone even work first time.

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u/Kortburk Sep 20 '21

2020 gamers don't even know the IRQ or DMA of their soundcards. Pathetic.

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u/dogbreath316 Sep 20 '21

Thanks for triggering a ptsd i didnt know i had

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u/emptybucketpenis Sep 20 '21

Well, i remember time when sound card was more of a luxury than an essential component

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u/Disastrous-Ad-2357 Sep 20 '21

Just modify your autoexec.bat

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u/SkinnyObelix Sep 20 '21

Sure, but if you didn't know anyone to tell you, you'd never know.

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u/NighthawkFoo Sep 20 '21

The games came with entire BOOKS explaining how to do some of the modifications.

I credit PC gaming for teaching me how computers really worked.

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u/uid0gid0 Sep 20 '21

This is the real deal right here. Diagnosing IRQ conflicts, learning about himem.sys, having multiple autoexec.bat and config.sys files depending on what you wanted to run.

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u/RogerStarbuck Sep 20 '21

Fun times, DOS=HIGH, and trying to free up an extra 15k (conventional) to get some game to run...

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u/Winterplatypus Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 T4

c:\
cd\game
game.exe

Error: Not enough EMS

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u/Elevation212 Sep 20 '21

If you aren’t booting out of DOS are your even gaming

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u/ponzLL Sep 20 '21

My parents bought a Soundblaster 16 for their first computer, and it came with a bunch of awesome games like Ultima Underworld, 7 Cities of Gold, Populous II, Syndicate Plus, Wing Commander II, Chuck Yeager's Air Combat, and a couple other great ones that I just can't remember at the moment!

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u/CrueltyFreeViking Sep 20 '21

Jesus christ seeing the word Soundblaster made my life flash before my eyes

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u/Aimjock Sep 20 '21

What the fuck is a soundblaster

That sounds like a dope-ass way to refer to speakers or headphones

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u/Kortburk Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

Motherboard didn't really come with any audio capabilities. Soundblaster 16 from creative became the standard sound card which every game had settings for so any other sound card came with Soundblaster 16 compatability.

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u/Polyking Sep 20 '21

I finish games on bad fps and don't realize the game wasn't supposed to look like that until I see other people play the same game on their setup

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u/Professional_Ad_2702 Sep 20 '21

Always remember the old trick: look at the sky for more fps when running

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u/Zelcki Sep 20 '21

Or ground less effective but you kinda see where you are going

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u/Riykin Sep 20 '21

That's kinda how spinbots work in fps games

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u/A_H_S_99 Sep 20 '21

I looked at the ground, I thought it was more effective than looking up, but I guess the sky has less texture maybe?

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u/DaEnderAssassin Sep 20 '21

Depends on how much is going on above the player but i believe down was generally considered "better" of the two (It nearly destroyed a number of speedrunning communities when a dad upload himself doing it in goldeneye)

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u/Legobrick1000 Sep 20 '21

I always assumed the ground was better since that's just a thin layer of (mostly-empty) terrain, versus the sky where there might be several weather effects, procedural clouds, lens flare, etc.

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u/lifestop Sep 20 '21

I use to throw smoke bombs behind me in Counter Strike, because I assumed it would kill my opponents framerate like it did mine. The good old days.

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u/MaximumSubtlety Android Sep 20 '21

My first Bioshock playthrough was <without textures>. It was still very cool.

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u/DeVliegendeBrabander Sep 20 '21

Wait, so like, with the purple and black squares all over the place? Or was it different back then?

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u/MaximumSubtlety Android Sep 20 '21

Precisely! I don't remember the specifics, but my otherwise sufficient video card didn't have some specific proprietary shading hardware, so the game ran (not well, but well enough), but with virtually no textures. Eventually, there was an unofficial patch.

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u/intredasted Sep 20 '21

Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 for me.

I did the whole thing, even the bonus characters.

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u/guaip Sep 20 '21

I remember playing Starcraft on my Pentium 133mhz. Then I upgraded to an AMD K6-2 350MHz. I couldn't believe how it transformed the game.

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u/Gbud350 Sep 20 '21

I remember building a pc to end up with a combination of components that just wouldn't play a certain game.

Those two components use the same interupt.. bah!

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u/greatspacegibbon Sep 20 '21

Good old days of manually setting IRQ and DMA settings.

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u/sAindustrian Sep 20 '21

Ah yes. Good ol' IRQ_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL

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u/DeterminedThrowaway Sep 20 '21

You unlocked a PTSD flashback I forgot I had

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u/ryhaltswhiskey Sep 20 '21

Someone the other day was like "usb blows". I was like oh my sweet summer child.

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u/greatspacegibbon Sep 20 '21

Ahh, the good old days when you could tell what you were plugging in from the connector. Making your own serial crossover cables for some multiplayer Doom or Descent. Raytracing a single image overnight. Good memories.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 25 '21

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u/Asshole_with_facts Sep 20 '21

Null modem cable connection for command and conquer for near lag free play was insane.

Playing 2nd gen fps like quake, hexen, heretic II, duke nukem, redneck rampage, and the unbelievably funny shadow warrior defined my childhood, including the hour or so it took to get the games to work before playing!

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u/roadrunner5u64fi Sep 20 '21

I’m thankful every day that I was born in the early 90s and my dad was a software dev, so this stuff just worked for me. I’m in IT and Development as well so I don’t doubt I would have enjoyed it just as much as I enjoyed tinkering with and building computers in the early 2000s, but it certainly is nice that I got to reap all the benefits of a techie dad at an early age.

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u/kelryngrey Sep 20 '21

Ugh. I had that happen. I think it was Midtown Madness just absolutely wouldn't run on my video card. I was so annoyed because I just wanted to drive around and crash into shit with my friends. Oh well, AoK worked.

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u/antinazicanada Sep 20 '21

90's Gamers had to figure out how to get the darn audio drivers working in MS-DOS; which was often no easy task! As a young child, I had to figure out by trial and error that... Holy Heck this adverture game actually has real voice overs rather than just MIDI beeps and boops.

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u/Halaster Sep 20 '21

Ahh, the joy of making sure your autoexec.bat is absolutely perfect, and still having to turn individual things on and off each boot to make sure you got that 585k of free conventional memory needed to run Ultima 7 with sound.

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u/Zogtee Sep 20 '21

I remember I could confidently edit autoexec.bat and config.sys whenever I needed to. I'd be terrified to do tthat today. :D

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u/AlsoInteresting Sep 20 '21

Don't forget the QEMM line.

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u/turbotrixie1 Sep 20 '21

NOEMS Highscan!

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u/Firewire_1394 Sep 20 '21

I Just built a retro gaming box. Not going to lie, getting a base level config and autoexec was a little harder than I remember it being haha.

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u/AndySchneider Sep 20 '21

I remember building an autoexec.bat with different configurations you could select on boot. So, load the CD ROM drivers or not, etc. I had a config just for Ultima 7, customized just for that game, which launched the exe directly after booting, because it was useless for anything else.

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u/CrashMonkey_21 Sep 20 '21

Managed the same thing as a kid but had no idea what I was doing.

Would delete lines of the autoexec, test what games and functions worked and save it to a disk. Trial and error but eventually had a few disks for different games.

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u/xpritee Sep 20 '21

Not far from modern software development process.

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u/masterventris Sep 20 '21

On more than one occasion I have binary searched the codebase to work out where a bug was happening, either with breakpoints or just commenting out half the file depending on how much I cared.

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u/xpritee Sep 20 '21

print("aisjodisajdksladj")

run

"ah it didn't reach here"

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u/mejelic Sep 20 '21

Welcome to debugging...

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u/Dragnod Sep 20 '21

Yes I remember those days. I don't need no mouse driver for Grand Prix, so that's gotta go.

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u/gregsting Sep 20 '21

Then came our lord and saviour QEMM386

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u/Exciting_Control Sep 20 '21

I was literally just thinking about the struggles of getting Ultima 7 to run with both the mouse driver and enough memory to play sound.

I gave up in the end and played the whole game with no sound. Playing without a mouse was just too painful. I would occasionally boot the game up without the mouse driver just to see what music was playing.

I’m sure to this day there was a autoexe that could have eeked out enough memory. But like the OP says, I was a kid and there were zero resources to help where I lived.

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u/JusticiarRebel Sep 20 '21

I got the Ultima Collection sometimes around 1997 or such. Ultima 7 was a 5-year old game at that point. I could never get Ultima 7 to play on my new computer cause I didn't have enough extended memory. At that point, I'm pretty sure a lot of those memory types no longer existed. A computer that had no problem running Baldur's Gate or Fallout couldn't figure out Ultima 7.

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u/ChrisBabaganoosh Sep 20 '21

Lord British always finding a way to make you hate PC gaming with every new game.

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u/ud_patter Sep 20 '21

Remember ending up with a stack of bootdisks, having to select the right one for each game, and decide how essential cd or mouse support was.

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u/NyteMyre Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

I had Indiana Jones: The Fate of Atlantis... you could play it with text-speech or with audio-speech. If you had selected the right combination of IRQ/DMA, i had the audio version... but on my PC, the game wouldn't continue past the first line of dialogue.

Still... it was the coolest thing ever.

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u/Exciting_Control Sep 20 '21

I dreamed about the “talky” version of Fate of Atlantis back in the day. I didn’t have a CD drive at the time.

Listening now…lol that actor sounds nothing like Harrison Ford. I knew it never was but I thought they would get someone that sounded a bit closer to the real thing.

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u/ImpossiblePackage Sep 20 '21

Its obviously not Harrison Ford but it does sound like a pretty good impression of Harrison ford

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u/intangibleTangelo Sep 20 '21

it was close enough for me. indy's face was about 20 pixels. these games were all about imagining the environment.

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u/utdconsq Sep 20 '21

This and full talkie sam and max were the crown jewels in my pc game collection.

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u/or4n Sep 20 '21

Remember tuning memmaker, autoexec.bat and config.sys to get CDROM working at the same time with mouse and soundcard?

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u/ElSelcho Sep 20 '21

himem.sys for the win 😄

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u/TheTerrasque Sep 20 '21

get CDROM working at the same time with mouse and soundcard

Can not be done. I've seen men eat their floppy disks trying

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u/rydan Sep 20 '21

All you needed to know is what hardware you had along with the IRQ and DMA channel. It pretty much just worked at '94 if you knew those three bits of information.

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u/saberplane Sep 20 '21

It's kinda sad I miss those days. PC building and getting things to run is such a cakewalk these days by comparison. But I know it's better this way.

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u/Earthboom Sep 20 '21

Naw dog. Linux says hi. It's still a struggle out here sometimes. Sometimes it's plug and play, other times you're knee deep in the terminal because your window manager crashed and your mouse doesn't work right and you can't mount your sd card and you don't see your USB stick.

Sometimes the package manager tells you your boot partition is out of space and half installs a kernel anyway missing all optional modules and you can't figure out why your vpn tunnel disappeared.

Sometimes it be like that. When it works just right though, feels so good. You built it and you installed an operating system and then everything else. It broke six times along the way but you also fixed all of it.

Windows tho. Ya. Plug and play.

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u/xatrekak Sep 20 '21

I was just about to say this. If you want to bash your head against getting things to work Linux +1.

Games are a first class citizen and pretty much always work. But getting some quality of life tools working like OpenRGB or GWE is a freaking adventure.

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u/zuus Sep 20 '21

Recently discovered OpenRGB and Rem0o FanControl, so good! Sure it's not as intuitive and takes some setup, but god I am glad to get rid of that "Asus Aura" abomination and its memory/CPU impact. Honestly surprised Windows Defender doesn't pick it up as malware.

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u/twaxana Sep 20 '21

I'm over here trying to get a messaging client working on Manjaro ARM. I'm currently trying to decide if I should keep trying or if I screwed up so much that I should just start over. But it works really well aside from that.

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u/JarlaxleForPresident Sep 20 '21

I could build a pc with my dad back then. I have forgotten everything about it and it’s all different now. But my bro built a wicked rig after just a few weeks doing research and never really messing with computers before, so it is probably a lot more streamlined

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u/Agent-r00t Sep 20 '21

It depends on your measure of worked though.

Because you generally needed to tune things to get what could work into himem, emm386 (and likely smartdrv) all leaving enough memory for games to start up.

Heaven forbid you had network drivers too (lsl, ipxodi, 3c5x9/ne2000 etc). Since the PC I had was at work, it did! But I mean I needed to run doom to, you know test stuff.

Making the drivers load was level 1. Making them load while leaving enough conventional memory free was the real challenge.

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u/Retard_2028 Sep 20 '21

Soundblaster.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 30 '21

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u/FinishingDutch Sep 20 '21

Yup. I'm so glad I grew up on stuff like MS-DOS and Windows '95. When you basically had to figure out HOW it worked in order to GET it working.

Don't get me wrong, it's great that we now have auto-updating drivers, easy installs, etc... but that doesn't quite breed problem-solving skills like what us early 90's gamers needed to have. Still, it's great that we can now just Google a problem instead of having to spend half a day to figure out WHY THE GODDAMN GAME ISN'T RECOGNIZING THE AUDIO CARD IT SHOULD GODDAMN WORK ON THIS IRQ....

Ahem.

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u/tombombcrongadil Sep 20 '21

Windows 95 actually changed quite a bit as far as loading games. Windows 3.1 didn’t even boot when you powered your pc. It booted to MS-dos and you had to run win.exe to get into Windows. Some games would run in 3.1 but most the time you’d actually close Windows, go back to dos and use cd/ to get to your games exe file.

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u/FinishingDutch Sep 20 '21

Yup, remember that well....

Exit Windows...

cd..
dir
cd duke3d
duke3d.exe

I actually still use the command prompt for certain things; even in 2021 there's still some software that uses it.

If only we could still do that today, right? Imagine what your PC could do with games if you didn't need to run that complete OS, your antivrus, your game launcher, etc. etc. in the background.

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u/Siigari Sep 20 '21

Port IRQ 7 was the holy port reserved for printers.

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u/DeeSnow97 Sep 20 '21

printers should be burned at stake for the sins they have committed against all mankind

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u/hoofglormuss Sep 20 '21

They're our bridge from the virtual world to the physical world there's bound to be some complications when changing realms

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u/kimchifart Sep 20 '21

80s gamer here. Lol. Just lol. We literally had to load a cassette tape and listening to screeching shit for fifteen minutes. Then the load would fail.

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u/whatwecantoendure Sep 20 '21

I still remember thinking that RPG games like Final Fantasy were too long and text-heavy for them to ever be voiced by real voice actors. Thankfully the gaming industry boomed quite a bit since those days.

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u/kurodon85 Sep 20 '21

Star Wars Dark Forces was one of the first games I ever bought for PC, but I didn't realize it was DOS and quickly had to learn all that as an 11 or 12 year old without Internet too. Ah, but first I had to assemble a working PC from a truckload of broken ones on my own. Sparky Legos were so much fun :)

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u/Bicdut Sep 20 '21

I had to buy a card for $70 to get pixel shading support to play black and white 2. I still play it every now and again but there's no npc ai. I still have each enemy movement memorized. Need a mod for that.

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u/stoopdapoop Sep 20 '21

black and white 2 was such a disappointment compared to the first, ah well.

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u/Alberiman Sep 20 '21

They simplified everything :(. Sure the game ran better and there weren't as many world breaking glitches but God damn it wasn't the same. Loved the new city building features though

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u/Gabcab Sep 20 '21

They should make a Black and White 3!

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u/Oscar_Geare Sep 20 '21

I’ve always thought it’s the perfect game for VR

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u/nelsonbestcateu Sep 20 '21

I wish they'd give that a proper remake.

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u/herrbz Sep 20 '21

I never knew you could play Pokemon on a PC

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u/AlphaTundra Sep 20 '21

Lol, you can now with emulation. I think they are referring to Black and White 2 released in 2005

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u/Retard_2028 Sep 20 '21

Insert disk 7 of 15

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u/SolomonSinclair Sep 20 '21

I remember getting the original Fable on PC and being excited that it was only 4 discs.

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u/HappyGuyDK Sep 20 '21

I have a bit of an opposite memory, but from the same studio.
The Movies came on a DVD, which was pretty standard, but the expansion came on a CD.

For some reason I thought it was pretty interesting how it was all on just one CD.
Especially because games on CD's weren't common at that point. (I think?)

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u/DasArchitect Sep 20 '21

Disk 12 corrupted. Abort, Retry, Ignore?

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u/sAindustrian Sep 20 '21

I once backed up all my C drive to a 37-disk spanned zip file.

You just reminded me of disk 34. :(

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u/konohasaiyajin Sep 20 '21

I remember once trying to back up a set of install disks to a drive. The installers were hard coded to read the floppy drive though, so it would start but then just keep trying to read A: for disk 2.

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u/sAindustrian Sep 20 '21

I wonder if any younger IT people wonder what happened to the A and B drives of their computer.

They're reserved for floppy disk drives. You know, because having two floppy drives is something that we all had back in the 17th Century.

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u/geschtonkenflapped Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

Only 15? I remember games with over 30. Of course it was always one of the last floppies that broke

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u/MrXwiix Sep 20 '21

Oh man this triggered PTSD as I had limited PC time and sometimes installing a new game wasn't done so I had to beg my parent to switch the disk during an install when I wasn't allowed to play anymore

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u/shawnikaros Sep 20 '21

I remember playing morrowind on 640x640 window with everything set to low and it was probably 15-20fps. It was glorious.

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u/rydan Sep 20 '21

I remember playing Microsoft Flight Simulator on an XT. I think the fps was less than 1.

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u/TurkTurkle Console Sep 20 '21

I used to play runescape (mmo) and got ping so bad i was getting 17 seconds per frame. Still beat one of the hardest quests ingame despite lag spikes.

Any frames per second over 8 is playable

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u/Sylgamesh Sep 20 '21

The way you wrote that makes it sound like you had to wait 17 seconds for 1 frame to load and that just sounds like a torture device in gamer jail

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u/TurkTurkle Console Sep 20 '21

I did. 1700 ping spikes. Game kept auto attacking for me, and id summoned a pet who had a (iirc) 1/3 chance to hit twice so it kept pulling aggro off me when i lag spiked, and i started guessing when i was going to be seriously hurt and buffering heals even though my game appeared frozen.

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u/ToRa89 Sep 20 '21

Midtown madness at 5 fps!

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u/roadrunner5u64fi Sep 20 '21

God I played so much morrowind. I didn’t really do much questing tbh until I replayed it when I was older, but I used to run around yelling “free the slaaaaves!!” And taking off all their handcuffs. I was pretty annoyed that they didn’t actually stop working the fields to start a revolution.

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u/CrashProne86 Sep 20 '21

I remember played Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight and pressing the - key several times to shrink the rendering aperture to 1/4 the size of my screen so that I could have a frame rate significantly higher than 4. Ran so smooth baby on that little rectangle in the middle of the screen!

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u/A__Glitch Sep 20 '21

I remember trying to run Serious Sam, and I figured out that I could run faster if I looked at the floor because it gave me higher FPS rather than stuttering along at 15 or so - young me thought it was just a feature

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u/thiamazole Sep 20 '21

thats literally how i played skyrim at release. amazing that almost 10 years later and i still play it but with 70 mods 120 fps 2k

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

Oblivion; I cranked the graphics to full at 1280x1024 and wondered at the graphics; one of the first games to have "wet" looking lightings.......

It ran at about 10 fps, but damn if it didn't slap.

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u/sleepytoday Sep 20 '21

Yep. In the first couple of hours, I found and used the Scrolls of Icarean Flight. It took my PC so much effort to process the jump, it was about an hour before I landed.

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u/shdhdhhxdheh3u3h Sep 20 '21

Anyone remember the turbo button?

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u/Aphala Sep 20 '21

2002 my mate had one with a turbo on it from the late 90s.

Seems those types of buttons are on GPUs and motherboards now and even then a rare sight at that.

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u/Doctor_Ghillie Sep 20 '21

You know the Turbo button downclocked your CPU to run old games better, right?

Newer games don't have that issue.

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u/Aphala Sep 20 '21

I am aware yes.

It's more we have instant oc buttons on hardware compared to dc buttons on older system hardware.

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u/sahmackle Sep 20 '21

The funny thing is turbo back then was running the CPU at its specced speed, and slowing the speed down by a lot when you turned turbo off.

Now when you turn turbo off it will be anything up to the maximum rated speed for the cpu. Turbo will be above maximum specced speed by a percentage margin, and only held for a short time as long as the CPU is within its thermal envelope, sometimes on all cores, sometimes in a subset of them

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u/ToRa89 Sep 20 '21

"is it my fault I'm shit? No it's definitely the fps drop"

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

Teammate getting absolutely dumpstered in Overwatch.

Teammate in comms: "Oh my god this laagggg"

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u/fuckprecalc Sep 20 '21

Man the thing is when it actually is lag you just gotta stay quiet cuz no one is gonna believe u

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u/MakiKatomori Sep 20 '21

If I see lag and die to it I'm just like oh that happened welp let's just respawn.

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u/Shrave Sep 20 '21

I die a lot when there is lag and when there isn't so it makes no difference for me at this point.

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u/ToRa89 Sep 20 '21

Dude I used to play cs1.6 on early DSL haha Those were lag days

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u/hangtime79 Sep 20 '21

Quake II on a 56K modem that never connected above 26.4K. We invented the term HPB. This is my lawn.

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u/FinishingDutch Sep 20 '21

The very first online game I played was Team Fortress Classic on 56k. I remember being completely blown away that, not only was I playing with actual people, I was playing with people halfway across the world.

It was all very friendly, not toxic at all. Because to everyone, the experience was so very new.

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u/idsan Sep 20 '21

Not quite that far back, but I used to think there was bullet travel time in Halo CE multiplayer because of how far I had to lead the target to combat what was actually lag. Fun times.

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u/zb0t1 Sep 20 '21

Well I had to do that on Quake, UT, early BF and Cod because I used to live more than 10k kms away from Europe, and I had like 250ms playing. It teaches you to predict a lot and when you play in Europe with low ping later your skill is insane because you learned how to predict dodges and movements (also behind corners).

But today I won't even play if I have more than 60-70ms online haha.

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u/Earthboom Sep 20 '21

Latency is a silent killer. It's one thing if I'm trash but another if I'm fighting the code, and they're trash. That just hurts.

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u/zxern Sep 20 '21

Lol I remember playing FPS games on dialup with 400+ ping and gaming the netcode by shooting before I came around the corner. It was 50/50 chance the server would think I was already around the corner when I fired.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

A few days ago I was playing TF2 and was playing against other Sniper. I saw him, aimed at a head, shot him, but he didn't die and killed me. I've said that it's lag, he answered with "Yeah sure"

When lag stopped, I've killed him 3 times in a row and he said "I guess it really was a lag"

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u/SageHunter Sep 20 '21

Call out lagg before you die of it, problem solved!

Honestly, one feature I do like in LoL is that you can ping your ms

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u/Ermellino Sep 20 '21

You can message your ping in LoL. So you can prove it, unless it's random 1k spikes that quickly go back to normal

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u/rmorrin Sep 20 '21

I've had times where my frames have dropped from 144+ to sub 50. And I'm just like ?!?!?! It's so jarring when frame stutters and shit happen

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u/iscorama Sep 20 '21

Yeah, it’s not your terrible reflexes or aim. It’s fucking XFINITY, bro!

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u/Legend_Lynx_Gaming PC Sep 20 '21

well I almost died in hardcore minecraft due to my computer settings making Frames per second better described by seconds per frame

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u/Pyroperc88 Sep 20 '21

If you like SPF may I interest you in Kerbal Space Program with a extra generous serving of Moar Boosters?

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u/ryhaltswhiskey Sep 20 '21

90s gamers: "it isn't working? fucking dosbat.ini bullshit"

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u/sciencewonders Sep 20 '21

CD is just a tiny bit scratched aaaaaaaaand it won't install 😢

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u/CrueltyFreeViking Sep 20 '21

When disk 6 of 8 is borked 😫

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u/SelloutRealBig Sep 20 '21

Back to flash games i guess

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u/Quicc-n-Thicc Sep 20 '21

Me being a console casual POS I can barely tell a 20 frame drop

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u/Takanashi_Aihlia Sep 20 '21

Assuming you have a console that typically runs at 30fps, I definitely feel like you’d notice suddenly dropping to 10.

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u/Manuels-Kitten PlayStation Sep 20 '21

I can deal framerate drops up to 20fps in 30fps games, THEN it becomes a problem. In 60fps once the game consistantly stays in 40-60 range I'm happy.

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u/douglasdtlltd1995 Sep 20 '21

i would just like Unreal games to be optimized and not drop 140 -> 40 fps.

(BloodHunt)

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u/siirka Sep 20 '21

Seriously so many of these unreal 4 games run like garbage, or games will upgrade to it saying that performance will be so much better and then you lose half your FPS post patch….

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u/HarryPopperSC Sep 20 '21

I tried going back to xbox to play rocket league on my old account recently and jesus christ it's so bad. You press a button and it doesn't happen on screen until next week.

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u/Doctor_Ghillie Sep 20 '21

Jesus. 20 FPS looks like a PowerPoint presentation to me.

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u/Globglogabgalab Sep 20 '21

I've been on PC since the beginning of this year and I still see no difference after 45+ fps.

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u/Kingair08 Sep 20 '21

And a lot of people like to benchmark which makes them crave for mor performance rather enjoy their new powerful rig.

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u/skyraider17 Sep 20 '21

I honestly can't remember the last time I've checked my frame rate. Probably 10+ years ago while running Fraps because it had the frame rate overlay?

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun Sep 20 '21

I monitor my framerate always, but since I use Vsync, I mostly only monitor it so I can know if there are any hardware issues I need to look into as opposed to obsessing over what my max fps should be.

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u/Noobraiser Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

Vsync induced delay is godawful, id rather have screen tearing here and there than that stupid vsync crap.

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u/sunnydelinquent Sep 20 '21

Honestly as long as the game is working I’m satisfied. It’s when you get such insane stutter because the developer didn’t optimize for PC correctly that I get upset. Or I get upset at myself for loading too many mods.

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u/TheRealLifeGigaChad Sep 20 '21

getting X Wing Alliance to run was a right of passage

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u/SjorsMaster Sep 20 '21

To be fair when my €1200 GPU underperforms I do get worried, but not when it's just a few frames

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u/2jah Sep 20 '21

The post is exaggerated, but yes, when you drop from 144 fps to below 80, it's very noticeable.

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u/sassiest01 Sep 20 '21

Yeah for sure, I play on a 144hz monitor with a GTX 980 and the frame drops I get are pretty crazy sometimes and always easy notice, sometimes worse of an experience then when I played god of war on my cousin's PS4 which I assume was running something like a locked 30fps.

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u/BiedermannS Sep 20 '21

So, Linux gamers in 2021 are basically 90s gamers.

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u/PonchoHobo Sep 20 '21

Think the biggest 90s difference is I though slowdown was cool when the game got cluttered and made the move feel like it did more damage. Now i feel the game is unplayable if the frames drops.

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u/Animatratus Sep 20 '21

I'm so old, I remember a time without video games. However... 90s, yeah I was playing quite a few PC games then.

Star Control II and III, WarCraft II, StarCraft I, Diablo I... good times.

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u/Kanehammer Sep 20 '21

I literally saw a dude say that control on PS4 was borderline unplayable

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u/Much_Feed_280 Sep 20 '21

To be fair, Control is pretty rough on PS4. It does have a lot going on screen to justify it though, it's a very pretty game.

Bloodborne on the other hand is so jank that I felt sick trying to play it for a few hours until I adjusted.

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u/Hagandasj Sep 20 '21

Mmmm reminds me of trying to play Doom 3 when it first came out at ~10 frames on my parents computer.

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u/Ynneb82 Sep 20 '21

Windows always had some problem and you had to format the computer often.

It was the best feeling when I realized "damn it's been 10 years since I needed to format a PC"

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u/coso9288 Sep 20 '21

I'm happy if it runs over 30/60 fps. Just don't want to spend 3000$ for a PC, have better things to do with my money. And can't really get a gpu nowadays so I'm happy if it's not lagging and I can enjoy the game

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u/WiseOldTurtle Sep 20 '21

I remember having to teach myself English, not only so I could understand what was happening in the game, but also so I could understand what the hell I needed to install and in what order, to make the game work.

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u/nubsauce87 Sep 20 '21

TBH neither I nor any of my friends, nor anyone I've ever talked to, have ever bitched about FPS unless the game was like... crashing or something. I'm not really sure where this supposed "trend" came from...

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u/Yourself013 Sep 20 '21

People get used to luxury. I also played Witcher 3 on a potato pc with like 28 fps on non-native resolution and loved it back when it released. Now that I'm used to high refresh rate gaming, dropping down to 30s is definitely jarring and not like before.

It's not just gaming, you'd very likely notice a difference when you changed your car for a much worse model even though you used to drive something much more comfortable and so on. It's easy to get used to better stuff. It's not a "trend" or anything, it's just how the human mind works.

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u/apples_vs_oranges Sep 20 '21

It's called the hedonic treadmill https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill

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u/Yourself013 Sep 20 '21

There's some truth to it. But I have to say that I'm enjoying gaming much more with my current system than before. Expectations do rise, but I also don't desire more. Previously I did enjoy the gameplay but I always wanted to have a better PC, be able to play in 60fps and better graphics. Now I just don't care about any upgrades and I'm loving my setup.

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u/millionmice Sep 20 '21

Slaanesh approves

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u/Geiir Sep 20 '21

I love it when I see young gamers run everything on max, highest possible resolution on their 4K monitor trying to get 160+ fps to get an “edge” over the enemies.

Meanwhile many pros are playing at the lowest possible setting to maximize fps and reduce visual clutter to actually get an edge 🤷‍♂️

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u/coachrx Sep 20 '21

Yes, I'll take dog shit for textures as long as I can play the game if it is enjoyable. This goes back to visuals over actual quality content. Same thing with movies.

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u/lmnjello Sep 20 '21

My criteria for my last PC purchase was wether or not it would play my collection of CD-ROMS properly. People wanting Doom Eternal at max settings running 60FPS and I’m editing INI files to get Jedi Academy to fill the screen at 1600x900.